Gentleman, The mercy rule of CDMSBL 55 55+ Division: 12 runs after 5 innings. Rule changed approved on 7/11/17 from 10 runs to 12 runs The rule for a complete game:
7-2. Five (5) full innings constitutes a complete game. If a game is stopped for darkness, curfew or inclement weather, the final score will be determined by reverting back to the last completed inning, providing five (5) innings have been completed. If the score is tied after the last completed inning, the game shall be recorded as a tie in the standings. Any game played to fewer than five (5) innings, shall be postponed and replayed. The score in games called because of curfew will stand at the time of curfew and the reversion rule will apply.
I officially protested last nights game which in which we were getting slaughtered, due to the FACT it was Not a complete game. Now I will ask the league to enforce its own rule.
I am tired of arrogant umpires that do not know the rules.
Protests 10-1. Any team lodging a protest must notify the opposing General Manager and the umpire-in-chief (plate umpire) that he is protesting the game and must do so before the next pitch following the protested call. It would be advised to notify both umpires. Verbal notification must then be made to the CDMSBL President before 9 p.m. the day after the protest is lodged. A written protest must then be accompanied by a $25 fee that shall be submitted with a written notification to the President, Commissioner or a Board member within three (3) days of the protest. This fee is refundable if the protest is upheld. The fee is forfeited if the protest is denied. 10-2. A three (3)-member panel comprised of members of the CDMSBL Board ofDirectors, and as organized by the President, shall review and rule on all protests. The Board panel shall rule on the protest within five (5) days of receipt of the written protest/fee. The panels ruling is final. If the Board panel upholds a protest, the Commissioner shall make the necessary arrangements (date, time, location, umpires, etc.) to complete the protested game. The panel will rule on whether the game is picked up from point of protest or if the game will be replayed in its entirety. 10-3. Any member of the Board who the President deems has a bias or appearance of a bias will be excused from serving on a protest committee. 10-4: Appeals can be filed by anyone accused of violating Code of Conduct policies and CDMSBL protocol. A written appeal must then be accompanied by a $25 fee that shall be submitted with a written notification to the President, Commissioner or a Board member within three (3) days of the protest. This fee is refundable if the appeal is upheld. The fee is forfeited if the appeal is denied. Both Umpires were notified that the outcome of the game was under protest. My check is in the mail I have e-mailed my protest to the commissioner and will speak with him today.
To be clear all we wanted was to finish our game according to the rules.
-- Edited by herbcarterjr on Tuesday 25th of June 2019 08:33:33 AM
The team that is behind has to bat five times, for it to be a complete game. The team that is ahead does not need to hit in the fifth inning, for a rain out to be a complete game.
That is a major league rule, that we follow. If your team hit in, and had 3 outs recorded against them in the 5th inning, you will lose your protest. If your team did not hit in, and have 3 outs recorded against them in the 5th inning, then your protest should stand.
This one is quite black and white. No gray area here.
-- Edited by mgirard11 on Tuesday 25th of June 2019 08:47:58 AM
-- Edited by mgirard11 on Tuesday 25th of June 2019 08:48:44 AM
I'm guessing they called your game before you batted 5 times? If your opponent was the home team they obviously don't need to bat in the 5th if they were already up by 12.
To Clarify as acting manager last night for Jimmy K. who is out of town, The score was 13-0 after 4 1/2 innings ( Giants were the Home team) The Peppers batted 5 Times. I don't see the reasoning for having Us bat in the bottom of the 5th up by 13.
To Clarify as acting manager last night for Jimmy K. who is out of town, The score was 13-0 after 4 1/2 innings ( Giants were the Home team) The Peppers batted 5 Times. I don't see the reasoning for having Us bat in the bottom of the 5th up by 13.
Extra BP?
The rule is the losing team needs to bat 5 times - obviously in a game where the outcome has been determined the home team doesn't need to bat.
So you are saying the rule printed in all of our scorebooks is incorrect. Both rules??
First off the rules in the scorebooks are not our rules - ours are posted on the website. Those books come from MSBL with those rules printed.
4&1/2 innings with the home team ahead is considered 5 innings. Have you ever played a bottom of the 7th if the home team was ahead? It's still considered a 7 inning game.
It's your $25 but if it were me I wouldn't waste my time or money.
Let it go and move on. If you batted 5 times, and the home team was ahead, then it's all over.
Take it from me, we've experienced this many times over the years and by the looks of things, the slaughter rule will be invoked more this year than last, and I'll wager there will be even more next season . There are ways to fix this, but I don't see it happening.
CDMSBL RULE 5-1: Major League Baseball rules shall apply unless superseded by CDMSBL rules.
From MLB.com :
Regulation Game Definition A game is considered a regulation game -- also known as an "official game" -- once the visiting team has made 15 outs (five innings) and the home team is leading, or once the home team has made 15 outs regardless of score.
Recommend MLB rules 1.06, 7.01a, 7.01c(2), 7.01g(1) from the 2018 MLB rules.
Regardless of the official rule, if you were to win the protest, everyone would return to a field (tbd), for the bottom of the 5th, so the Giants could add to the 13-0 score that they already amassed against your team. A new set of umpires would need to be paid full rate to ump this 1/2 inning, so that you could "see what a new player could do"??? Have you polled your team to see how many of them would want to go through this masochistic exercise?
So are we supposed to play the bottom of the 7th when the home team is ahead?? I think it's well known to baseball players that there is no need to play the bottom half of an inning when the game is already decided.
7-1. Regular-season games shall be seven (7) innings and are subject to darkness as determined by the umpiring crew and also curfews as designated by CDMSBL rules.
If you want to clarify the rule write it up the way you want it worded and forward it to the commissioner. It seems like a complete waste of time.
Looking at the schedule just a couple weeks ago on June 12th the Cubs (The Home Team) used the mercy run rule Vs the Peppers at Watervliet HS to win 15-2 in 4 1/2 innings. Why wasn't there a protest lodged then for the same situation as last Night when the Cubs didn't bat in the bottom of the 5th inning?
As a practicing sadist, I and some if my friends would be more than happy to thump the living dogsnot out of all you masochists on the peepers, just to see what you can do. There Will be NO safe words,so wear some extra panties. Afterward,there will be signups for the new kickball season as well as refreshments provided by the CDMSBL Board of Directors. I understand this will take place at Waynes house,second bedroom down the hall. The one with the shag carpeting on the walls.
