I am curious as to how many home runs were hit at each age level last season. The stats. that I saw for the 55+ showed 2 homers over the course of the season. That would be 1 home run every 30-35 games. Don't know how many were hit in the 45's. I believe that if there isn't an average of 1 HR per game---at any level, then the fences are too far. May as well not have a fence if we are only seeing a HR once every several hundred times at bat. Give hitters a chance to go all the way on the gappers. Home runs are a part of the "modern era". You don't have to agree with me, but that's the way I see it.
Actually, if you figure there are about 60 plate appearances+- per game, then there was a home run hit about once every 2000 at bats last year in the 55's games.
they give us lots to think about. one thought i have now is that if the fences stay where they are, our pitchers will be among the most secure in north america.
unless, of course, babe ruth and jimmy foxx are reincarnated and want to join our geezer league. -mike
The idea of moving the fences at a field where the 45's play would be no fun at all for anyone standing on the mound as yeah, the 55's might like it, but the 45's would be severely detracted from with pop-ups going for HR's... Plenty of guys in the 45's are capable of hitting it out as is when they connect and hitting one off the fists or the end of the bat and watching it go out? NO THANKS...
How many games were played at the 45 level last season and how many home runs were hit ? I think the number was quite low. Way less than one per game I am sure. There may be a lot of guys capable of hitting dingers in the 45's, but the balls are not going over the fence much. Do the math.
-- Edited by crowbait on Wednesday 17th of April 2013 08:07:25 AM
Right, I hear that argument loud and clear, just think it is outweighed by common sense and some other "numbers." Like the simple fact that pitching, no matter how good or bad it is, beats good hitting 7 out of 10 times at even the highest level(s).
Facts are that many good players like me have "warning track power" ( I actually hit the fence twice last year and had a couple others which were either caught or hit it on a bounce, and several which rolled to it)... And here's the common sense part for ya ~ it was as it should be... I am while a very good player, by no means a true power hitter... Yet if you move the fences in 25, 30 feet I am all of sudden popping 4-8 dingers when I just make decent contact and yank it down the line? That's silly...
I am the prototypical person of one who would benefit from the move in greatly (except when I'm pitching of course!), yet I realize it would alter games and possibly give teams wins when they shouldn't have them simply because they have some guys who can hit routine fly balls? And make no mistake, a 270 ft fly ball should be routine despite the trouble many outfielders have making the catch at our level...
Common Sense trumps your numbers...
"There's three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." Twain
And not to be "mean," but if the 55's really want that and there is overwhelming support for it, then why not just go get yourself a little league field to play on somewhere, then you could get all the "numbers" you can stand?
-- Edited by Marcus Aurelius on Wednesday 17th of April 2013 09:08:33 AM
"How many games were played at the 45 level last season and how many home runs were hit ? I think the number was quite low. Way less than one per game I am sure. There may be a lot of guys capable of hitting dingers in the 45's, but the balls are not going over the fence much. Do the math."
In order to calculate how the moving in of fences will improve the homerun totals, you would actually have calculate how many fly balls that DIDN'T go over the fence WOULD HAVE gone over the fence if the fences were moved in to the mark you're setting.
Do the math? You can't without the data. Simple Statistics 101.
-- Edited by The_Hurricane on Wednesday 17th of April 2013 09:51:13 AM
You are forgetting that half of the games in the older divisions were played on a field with NO fence. Any fence, at any distance is going to improve those numbers. This is a silly argument.
I am in favor of using really short guys in the infield--- I have trouble getting the ball out of the infield I've had a couple of infielders jump up and catch semi line drives--a total injustice
also, when I hit, the outside corner is ten feet wide, and extends down the first base line
it's like the plate is an aircraft carrier, and the strike zone goes down below my feet and above my head
the reverse is true when I pitch--then the strike zone is the size of a ping pong ball--
plus, I can't remember the count or how many outs there are, or if I have a helmet on or not--
